Seems a few ppl were chopped only a few weeks right after they hit their desks at the firm. Where Stash stands out is its account options: For a … Even in good times, people are always looking to see if they can cut you. we're rich fucks (not true, just our bosses) trying to screw everyone else out of their money and wall street has no purpose. [crosspost]. [–]Hosni__Mubarak -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children). 1. The actuarial exams as well are more taxing than their American counterpart. Thats interesting, every time i go to the city coke is the choice pick-me-up. Some of the large firms will fire you if you don't clear the exams. From what I've seen its mostly women. In addition, a broker/dealer provides research, advanced trading strategies, and tools, and employs a range of people from sales traders who interface with the customers, people who manage the client accounts, people who just onboard clients and ensure that they can get their orders to the firm, to the technology guys that manage connections to the exchanges, to the backoffice people who make sure that client's get printed statements and are charged appropriately. [–]NigerianHustler 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child), [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children). It drives me nuts that they do the recruiting though but that's another rant, [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children). You are probably in a great position. Those managers can't all invest in the same good ideas (see:diversification) so they need people who bring them good ideas (investment bankers) becuase the fund managers don't have the resources to vet every idea to see if its gonna help their bottom line. Apparently he never got an answer. Would you ever consider going into developmental economics or public policy after you "retire"? How about an interview? With the economy what it is right now, I can't say there is really considerably strong demand for any particular job right now aside from technology. I also came from a middle of the pack State University. Not gonna do this my whole life. playing catch up... lucky you BTW I'm looking to make moves, [–]spitfire9107 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). I was at Lazard. I'm not sure if you're still answering this but in the event that you are, are there jobs for someone with an engineering background on wall street? The card, which targets consumers with poor credit, was Riss' lifeline after she'd gone through bankruptcy to pay medical expenses But her rate went from an introductory 29.9% to 79.9%. you need a good internship in anything finance that summer to get your foot in the door, then the following summer you should aim to be in a division or sector in finance you want, summer post jr year you aim for the firm and team you want and if you do a good job you should be a lock in for an offer. HR hands them a stack of say 200 resumes they recieve from networkign events, online apps, ect... adn they need to pick maybe a dozen for the target school. A friend who works on wall st told me theres only 2 types of people that work on wall st. Genuinely Curious, Why Investment Banking? Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. [–]LePetitAlpha 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children), I work and have worked in a similar realm. banker, i'll use this year cuz i only started in aug of 11. projected to take home 84 +bonus 10-40k depending on my bosses opiinion. do you pick the kid with a 1510 SAT and a 3.8 or the guy you know with a 1420 and a 3.4? And this is just one business, of the many that an IB will have. RIM - Is this a stock that is going to keep climbing back up, or is it a lost cause? i heard its really tough to get a job with finance on wall street. Almost 50 bankers in Hong Kong and Singapore have left in the past six months, or about 30 per cent of the investment banking workforce before the departures.. Read more at Men's Health specialist (Fertility/Andrology); Studying effect of COV19 men. I come from upper-mid class Midwestern roots. (Also do note - the arcturial exams I've seen are the Indian ones, and those are an amalgamation of the beasts of hell, the iron man, along with quantum physics. How many girls have you actually banged since working on the st? My dad's friend has an mba in finance from columbia university. The Disney movie, Safety, was made based on my time as a Clemson football player. I wonder, I worked 2 years in a fin services startup - basically did the same things as you without the pay check. I've run the numbers. A few years ago (pre 2008), lacrosse was big on the street. What problems are there with these plans? in my perfect world i help a middle market business that is in a position to grow find money from an investor that has goals for their own fund or family and both parties leave the transaction happy and want to work with us in the future when they are bigger and can pay more in fees for us to help them again. loot the best scotches I can find and wait it out hoping lower Manhattan is the fortress it's hyped up to be. You can check the following - IIT-JEE, CAT(for management) are hard core. IamA the founder of a dating app and today is Dating Sunday (seriously, it's a thing), the day which sees the most people log onto online dating services every year. I know of a few of these stories- one guy I know started driving a red bull truck, another guy I met when buying some used furniture off craigslist- he had been laid off by the firm I was working at in the late 90s, and hadn't had real work since, this was in 2006. I'm currently learning all the programming languages you mentioned, so I feel I should be in good shape. Gets destroyed. It is a parasitic bureaucracy that thrives on useless paperwork and platitudes. if you get into the right algo fund i'd imagine you can make well north of 100k. Bring you and a whole group of kids in to interview for a full day with a bunch of back to back interviews. How did you get hired right out of college? Do you have any proof that you're actually in banking? The finance world is becoming more electronic oriented every day. [–]Detamz 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (7 children). I can answer some questions to help people out on the career move. I want to take the money I earn here and start a business doing something I love. The guys who don't like obama are gennerally the old school guys, the managing directors or guys who came from conservative families. I want to take the money I earn here and start a business doing something I love. Asset management refers to the management of assets that could involve investments like equity, fixed income securities, real estate, global investments, etc. Actual effective tax rate would be a decent bit lower. It turned out that a lot of colleges were just producing people who would at best qualify as technicians, not engineers. Sad-I feel the industry would be much better off if this weren't true... [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children). Now, all of these (and others I shan't bore you with) are anecdotal of course, but I was wondering if you had heard anything similar. bottles and models is true but models are kinda annoying and only the guys who have to get bottles to hang out with models want to hang out with models. However, I'd imagine the average investment banker has drastically less time to study for the exams versus the average actuary.. A focus in undergrad Actuarial science should net you a job in ~6 months, 70-90k, then your doing 20-30 hours of studying for the next several years (e.g. ny disability just show you're interested in the field by knowing whats going on in the relevant markets to the T and you should be good. You Can Now Read Other People’s Banking Horror Stories. Am I missing something? I calculate that even if you were taxed every dollar at the highest rate(not taking into account the progressive nature of all 3 income taxes you pay) and included both halves of payroll tax as if you you were a contractor. Mostly making powerpoints and building models of senarious for when managing directors go to the client so they can point to our work and say "this is why we think you should ask for X ammount from investors at X price" in equity or debt or whatever product. How much hooking up goes on in i-banks between the men and women? my bad. Or are those sort of pointless to care about when you're making 100k? What is the most fucked up thing about the industry? if you are certain IB is what you wanna do then try to leverage your family or friend relationships so you can get somethign that shows an interest in finance. [–]rae1988 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). If that's what you want to do, then go for it though. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children). if anything, you have a leg up because you have a quant background. They trend to 100-140k after 5-6 years of consistent test passing/raises. [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (9 children). Take into account Manhattan taxes, cost of living (i share an apt with 3 other guys and we pay 5200 collectively for a 3 bed 4 convert, pay on an hourly rate and we're not far ahead of the game. [–]d-nj -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (2 children). Literal: you have the address to show people that you know what you're doing because you can afford the address. I am world renowned author of dinosaur, unicorn, bigfoot and living object romance Chuck Tingle here to talk about my show and anything else that proves love is real AMA! i'm only 17, don't think i'm an idiot for not knowing. i'm not gonna say the firm because the internet scares me but its in the middle of wall street. Do you need any SQL DBA's that know Fund accounting? Haha that sounds like an interesting story... Got a couple friends at Lazard. Asymmetrical knowledge between the clients and us. Oh I know that data. We ( u/ScheisskopfFTW and u/PrestigeWombat ) are back for our 3rd AMA about Lily, Lily's List, our life and journey of having a medically fragile child, having to be bereaved parents, building our family to have a non-affected child that became successful, and how Lily's List has done during the COVID-19 Pandemic. Could you elaborate further on hiring practice issues? Great recruiting opportunities if you can get by the stigma that stern kids aren't known for their personality. Well uhh... there is that Lazard intern who hated her job and switched to porn. I'm not trading derivatives or front running clients or any complex shit so it's not in my best interest to fuck anyone over. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. ahh back in the glory days... [–]D3FSE 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). College senior in the city in need of prospects. This might be more of a general question, but I'd appreciate OP's input (and the input of any other Redditors who might have advice for me). It helped me immensely during my interview process and definitely plays a factor when i interview and hire people. A pigeon can still put a deposit on a Porsche... ya i came from a top 5 undergrad b-school and an athlete and it took me 8 months to find a job in 2011. when i came in in 07 i thoght i'd have an offer and a 5 figure signing bonus by febuary that year, [–]spitfire9107 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). I just set the Guinness World Record for longest distance swim in the ocean on a single breath. You clearly did it for the promise of money, and had no idea what you were getting into. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I interviewed for mostly S&T roles. Heard this story today. pretty good - how come the AMA? [–]Jpeele15 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children), What's your advice for a finance student looking for experience. Is bottles and models true or just what people wish it was? the best professors were the old school ones that have been around the block and want to give back and know its more important to teach to students and be understanding than to teach at the b-school for the feather in their cap. from what I've experiences, hiring practices, [–]StaffSgtDignam 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (17 children). Like I said, the MD I knew who moved over said the incompetence extended to the very top so I'm not sure if even MDs are to blame. The stories on NoSleep are usually fiction, although every so often, a true one will make its way onto its pages (like, for example, “The Smiling Man”). | Last updated: 2012-12-03 12:17 UTC. Producer, artist mentor & interviewer who literally wrote the book on Hip Hop. i don't have actual problems, i'm lucky and i'll try to remember these days when i do have real problems (health, family, money...), Something uncommon that plays a central role in your life, or, Proof should be included in the text of the post when you start your AMA. Presumably you'd be putting some of your own money in the stock market. However, for the early twenty-somethings with a quantitative mind, a cfa is do-able, along with the first few actuarial exams. OP works for the broker/dealer part. haha I'm a consultant. you just have to hav ea convincing reason that you want to be on wall street. [–]invRice 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). Hi, I’m Martyn Clark, CEO of Gadfly, a consultancy that works with directors of large corporations, and author of LOVE INCORPORATED, a book about how we need to radically rethink how business is done. A few years ago, a certain MD calls his entire team together at Friday afternoon at 3, and spends the next 2-3 hours rambling off random things off the top of his head. long story short, nerves got the best of me because i wanted it too much and i choked when i got questions like whats 24x24 and such. IamA manager of a Bitcoin/cryptocurrency hedge fund AMA! Long-time lurker, seldom poster. I Am Ray Ray McElrathbey. it doesn't seem real at times. Everyone who gets an interview is smart as shit for the most part, at least on paper, its more about who you can shoot the shit with for 80,90 100 hrs a week at that point. What are you doing now if you don't mind my asking? when so many qualified people apply for teh same job it becomes a crapshoot on who gets hired unless you can stand out on a personal level. If you worked ridiculous hours in your twenties, you'll force your analysts to suffer the same just to be fair. There really aren'tt that many prestigious places left with actually wall st addresses. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child), [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children), [–]ehs4290 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child), [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children). Going to have to hold off on buying the yacht for awhile. John Harper and Sean Nittner discussing AGON, A fast-paced tabletop roleplaying game of heroic adventure in a mythic world and the PARAGON system. Half that for me in commissions taxed at 52% after SS and all. Do you think you are putting the degree to decent use? EDIT: Also, why the heck do they not change things when this is happening? there are so many people who want these jobs because of the exit opps, $$$, presteige, ect... that the only way to get these jobs is networking and who your family knows. What happened later is someone checked out what people were really being trained in. High stress, but, if you actually enjoy the math/statistics/probabilities/Acturarial science, it can be stead (family works in this position, is transitioning out to a actuarial BA (business analyst) to avoid the stress of the tests/modules). [–]Wbankerthrowaway 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children). I must have had 6-8 superdays at serious places like citi and guggenheim on their trading floors. When a fund has say 100M (small-mid size ammount) to invest and you take 5% as a IB fee it adds up to be very profitable. Its not that hard to climb the ladder if you work reasonably hard. If you have a strong background in a computer science field and like finance definitely go for it. Err do note, that the CFA exam itself isn't a cakewalk. My friend is about to graduate with a bachelors in finance from baruch any tips for him to make it on wall st? Even at the entry level, investment bank employees are overwhelmingly men, according to a report by Vettery, a start-up recruiting firm. AMA! Free Exclusive Report: 57-page guide with the action plan you need to break into investment banking - how to tell your story, network, craft a winning resume, and dominate your interviews. alot of rich kids from overseas. He mentioned that out of his intake, less than half stayed more than a year (I'm assuming this was on the standard two year contract, but I'm happy to be corrected). once you have clients you can call your own shots. im in the 33% tax bracket technically but after ny and nyc and the finance bonus tax it adds up, [–]Bored2001 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children), 2013 tax brackets: 85650-178650 = 31% (if the tax breaks expire). If you can nail your CS major and show you have an interest in finance they'll teach you all the other shit. You've said much more than you understand with this statement. Do you think your industry is trying to find deals that are legit and pencil out or are they still trying to pass off crap to the public markets just so you can get a big payday in commissions? [–]Bored2001 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (1 child). when it was some hr lady asking me about balance sheets and what the s&p was at i almost never got the next round. I think they'll have to bring it back. Is this still a thing? This was coupled with lots of teeth gnashing and focus on improving test scores in the states. you always need accountants, and from what I understand, accountants jobs are hard to automate or outsource. most bankers i've known have gone to bschool after banking, hoping to transition into PE or something else. Frankly they decided to not renew our contract one year to then decide to renew it half way through the next year where we tripled their rate and they accepted it. JD's i know of are usually in law firms we need so we get the contracts right and don't get sued if we make a mistake. But it struck me because this is the third or fourth time I've heard this about Lazard, across multiple groups in very different regions. Give me 10 min to catch up. [–]Detamz 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). Are you fattening up your 401k and Roth Ira? Which is more in demand in nyc marketing, hr, finance, or accounting and why? Asset management firms are concerned with maximizing returns of client’s assets. I can answer from now till 3:40 PM Eastern when I board my flight. edit: by literally I meant my address is physically on wall street. How do you feel about the Glass Steagall act? [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (9 children). The banks are only taking on a small number of new grads, and only because they are cheaper than the guys they are firing. 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